老钱,在很多原则性问题上我与你立场一致。但是在关于ip3和ip66上,我认为你不占理。<br>
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你闭口不谈对你不利的对话。比如因为你认识所有到场的中国人,所以你认为ip3没有到场,所以你认为ip3是编造事实,所以才有骂ip66脚跟老皮。ip3在58楼已经指出你明显的逻辑错误。<br>
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而你105楼里攻击ip3的两点,一是他说“she is full of politics BS”<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun">。二是他说“She is second or third generation of India immigrats<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'" lang=ZH-CN>”,并不足以构成辱骂ip66脚跟老皮的根据。原因如下:</SPAN></SPAN><br>
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<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'" lang=ZH-CN>1.ip3不仅仅是说<FONT face=Verdana>“she is full of politics BS”</FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun">。ip3的全句是这样:she is full of politics BS. She will not stat her position in any issues. She's hiding something. 这后面两句(“她躲躲闪闪,从不阐明她自己的立场。”)在我看来为第一句提供了一定的事实根据。ip66如果认为ip3是“用事实讲话”也是合情理的,至少不到脚跟老皮的地步。</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><br>
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'" lang=ZH-CN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun"></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> <br>
<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'" lang=ZH-CN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun">2.ip3说“She is second or third generation of India immigrats<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ascii-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'" lang=ZH-CN>”。你可以指出这个说法有误。但是,我相信绝大多数读者不会认为ip3是有意造谣。而ip66也没有理由怀疑ip3造谣。所以,ip66如果认为ip3是“用事实讲话”也完全是合情理的。</SPAN><br>
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老钱,吃狼奶长大的人不愿意就事论事。但是在这个问题上不管ip3是什么人(即使是我痛恨的共狗),但如果我们就事论事,不难认识到ip3和ip66是有道理的,你不占理。<br></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>
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Allright. I hear you.<br>
At 58楼 I pointed out She said "I<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"> didn’t feel I had enough details to make a legal decision</SPAN>". She does not has any legal status at that time. "feel" can not be used in judgement/decision in politics. <br>
That's a typical political BS. just like saying, I do not remember, I can not recall. <br>
An indian friend told me she is second/third generation. I took her word for it.<br>
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For your own good, I hope you do not ever use "<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: SimSun; mso-bidi-font-family: SimSun">吃狼奶顽固不化的</SPAN>" since you only understand one aspect of the phase. Remember there is another saying "狗XX的". "Son ..." in English. Without explain, nobody knows which one you are using. It's insulting others intelligence. Whomever you are pointing at, I do not think its appropriate. You shall know me by now.<br>
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竞选已经过去了。大家还有经讨论。好事。<br /><br />IP*.*.*.3, 坚持要解释 "吃狼奶顽固不化的"。<br /><br />这个说法,我不止一次讲过,而且是一再讲,反复讲,还要讲。<br /><br />我们从大陆来的人,都是吃狼奶长大的。从小起,被反复地,强制地,系统地灌输谎话。我们的历史知识,社会知识,甚至包括自然科学里的某些部分,都是充满了谎言。这就叫“吃狼奶长大的”。当我们能够接触到外部世界之后,当我们深入到农村,工厂,接触到社会的真相之后。我们开始醒悟了。在我们离开了那个“桎铐”的环境后,我们应该对过去的所有“认识”和“知识”做一个自我清算。尽管我们的话语用词,总留有那些时代的痕迹,那不重要,那只是形式,外壳,除非我们不讲汉语。但是,如果我们还坚持那些错误的理念,原则的话,如果我们还坚持那些丑陋的行为法则的话,那就叫“吃狼奶而结实,顽固不化”。<br /><br />IP*.*.*.3, 请注意我的措辞,我说的是:“有几个。。。有几个。。。”。我没有说:“除了几个。。。就是。。。”。我还留了余地,可以再列举下去。。。起码,我还可以说,“有很多我的朋友,也不一定就同意我的观点”。有一次,一个朋友对我说:“你写的东西,我都看。但是,我不同意你的大部分观点”。我们仍然是朋友。我没有要求,别人都要赞同我。有不同意看法,是很正常的。光凭他看得起,看我的文章,我就很感谢了。<br /><br />我对你,IP*.*.*.3。没有个人交往,没有个人了解,无法做出评价。我没有对你做任何归类,不要自己“对号入座”。<br /><br />我只是就你自己的对Swapna的言论而评论。你全写的是英文。你说“I collect following facts”。<br /><br />1. 你写道“she is full of politics BS”。我怕有误解,特地请教了只讲英语的人,什么是“BS”?他们告诉我,“BS”就是“Bullshit”。查Wikipedia,也是这么解释的。你有什么根据呢?起码,用词太激烈了,太过分了吧。<br /><br />2.“She is second or third generation of India immigrats”。她一再说,她是第一代移民,在印度上的大学。如果你有根据,你应该立刻指出她的撒谎,她就立刻名誉扫地,出局。如果你有真凭实据而不说,就是你不负责任!<br /><br />就这两点,Bullshit 倒是应该还给你自己。<br /><br />就你这样的Bullshit 的言论,66楼居然说“支持38/39楼。 用事实讲话”。那么,我也只能说他是“用脚后跟老皮作出的判断”。<br /><br />既然你又说了“大家抬头不见低头见的.何必呢”。那么,我向你道歉,伤你了,我也用词过重了。希望什么时候,能见面,交个朋友。
作者:老钱 时间:2011年10月18日 12:06 查看全文