Dr．OlympiaLiu：美国的税率 (09/28/12)

游客 IP:71.162.91.* 发布于 2012-10-01 11:42 20 楼^#

Dr. Liu: Why can't you face the question of 第 11 楼? Why only insist on lie? Just a crazy mindset？

游客 IP:108.84.24.* 发布于 2012-10-01 11:08 19 楼^#

20楼，O8 graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School, 美国总统候选人并没传统公布大学成绩。

投票发布于 2012-10-01 10:42 18 楼^#

<TABLE style="TABLE-LAYOUT: fixed" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px" id=td_100279 class=r_one height="100%" vAlign=top> <DIV class=tpc_content> <DIV id=read_100279 class=f14> <BLOCKQUOTE class=blockquote3> <DIV class=text> 是让人不能理解，一帮只能算中产阶级或者还挣扎在贫困线上的中国人硬是往富豪们的共和党攀枝。不知道是虚荣还是自卑。 <A href="http://www.atlanta168.com/forum/job.php?action=topost&tid=12457&pid=100173" target=_blank><IMG onload="CaidaoViewImg(this,'700','700');" onclick="if(this.width>=700) window.open('http://www.atlanta168.com/forum/images/back.gif');" border=0 src="http://www.atlanta168.com/forum/images/back.gif"></A> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> 这种要往共和党的富人屁股上贴的现象，在亚特兰大的华人圈里还真能见到。东北部地区或西岸就很少有这种现象。奇了怪了。 </DIV></DIV></TD></TR> <TR class=r_one> <TD style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; VERTICAL-ALIGN: bottom; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px"> <DIV id=w_100279 class=c></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Dr.OlympiaLiu 发布于 2012-10-01 10:19 17 楼^#

民主党的 Clinton &  Obama 跟我们广大华人学子一样，凭学历到职场奋斗不止, 当上了President，  所以，民主党（Democracy）是代表广大人民利益的； 而Bush 和 Romney 是凭其爷辈财富混迹的。 Bush 之爷还是希特拉之帮的。  共和党代表以战发财的少数富豪利益。  美国广大新移民多数选  Obama，尽管有些观点不同（如：同性恋婚姻）但要看其党的大方向。只有少数富豪例外。就连美国犹太人群，他们也有些观点与 Obama 不同，但求大同，他们很团结，多投 Obama。   10月9日是乔州大选登记最后一天。11月6日是选举日，我们应该尽快登记，投上我们神圣的一票，去支持为广大人民服务，而不是为华尔街少数战贩富豪服务的Romney-共和党！ 08  连任！Obama 连任！

游客 IP:12.250.185.* 发布于 2012-10-01 09:28 16 楼^#

TO LZ,   Why Obama doesn't want to publish his transcripts or how he got into Columbia and Harvard?  What is he hiding?

游客 IP:108.84.24.* 发布于 2012-10-01 08:02 15 楼^#

现在共和党推销的flat tax只对earned income，而且取消各种抵税，这样对富人们大部分的unearned income,他们一分钱税都不用交。造成事实上中产阶级会交更多的税而富人们的税则基本上免除。

游客 IP:12.250.185.* 发布于 2012-10-01 07:41 14 楼^#

to 16th floor, if you look at the fair tax discussion, there will be some examptions for low income tax payers.  It could be based on poverty line.  That shouldn't be an excuse for not adopt it.  Most liberals actully want more tax revenues to support their political agenda or buy votes.  So a fair tax will be bad since they can no longer to start a class war fare.

Dr.OlympiaLiu 发布于 2012-10-01 07:34 13 楼^#

你能相信Romney 吗？他投资中国石油和中国工商银行，但在竞选共和党提名（President Candidate）前，立马出手全部股票，得净利八千万美元； Obama 说：Romney 是给了就业机会，但不是美国，而是给了China！ The current view of the 2012 presidential election. BARACK OBAMA   MITT ROMNEY343    191

游客 IP:108.84.24.* 发布于 2012-10-01 07:25 12 楼^#

会14楼，要勉强温饱的低收入的也付14%的税很不道德。

游客 IP:98.251.62.* 发布于 2012-10-01 07:21 11 楼^#

Obama 连任好！

游客 IP:12.250.185.* 发布于 2012-10-01 06:48 10 楼^#

That's why we need to push for fair tax where everyone pays for one single tax rate no matter how high/low their incomes are.  15% would be a good start and you will get even with Romney.  I am sure most of the liberals will cry foul on that too!

Dr.OlympiaLiu 发布于 2012-10-01 06:46 9 楼^#

最新消息：   Obama 有可能连任  （09/30/2012） The Election Poll shows  Obama 持高不下，Romney    很难逆转。 以下为新闻原文： ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Obama Within Reach of Second Term Associated Press - 09/30/2012 Five weeks to Election Day, President Barack Obama is within reach of the 270 electoral votes needed to win a second term. Republican Mitt Romney's path to victory is narrowing. To overtake Obama, Romney would need to quickly gain the upper hand in nearly all of the nine states where he and Obama are competing the hardest. Polls show the president with a steady lead in many of them as Romney looks to shift the dynamics of the race, starting with their first debate Wednesday in Denver. If the election were held today, an Associated Press analysis shows Obama would win at least 271 electoral votes, with likely victories in crucial Ohio and Iowa along with 19 other states and the District of Columbia. Romney would win 23 states for a total of 206.

Dr.OlympiaLiu 发布于 2012-10-01 06:15 8 楼^#

<div class="entry-title2" style="border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; float: left; width: 580px; color: rgb(66, 66, 66); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(235, 235, 235); "><h1 class="title" style="padding-bottom: 5px; padding-left: 20px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: top; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); line-height: 24px; font-family: 'Yanone Kaffeesatz', Arial, sans-serif; display: inline-block; ">最新消息：   Obama 有可能连任  （09/30/2012）</h1></div><div class="entry-title2" style="border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; float: left; width: 580px; background-color: rgb(235, 235, 235); "><h1 class="title" style="padding-bottom: 5px; padding-left: 20px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: top; display: inline-block; ">The Election Poll shows  Obama 持高不下，Romney    很难逆转。</h1></div><div class="entry-title2" style="border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; float: left; width: 580px; color: rgb(66, 66, 66); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(235, 235, 235); "><h1 class="title" style="padding-bottom: 5px; padding-left: 20px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: top; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); line-height: 24px; font-family: 'Yanone Kaffeesatz', Arial, sans-serif; display: inline-block; ">Obama Within Reach of Second Term<a href="http://bigstory.ap.org/article/race-stands-obama-within-reach-second-term" target="_blank" style="border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(48, 48, 48); ">Associated Press</a> - 09/30/2012 </h1></div><div class="post-content" style="padding-top: 20px; padding-right: 18px; padding-left: 18px; border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(66, 66, 66); font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(235, 235, 235); ">Five weeks to Election Day, <a href="http://www.pollheadlines.com/poll-category.php?category=obama-job-approval" style="border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(44, 181, 233); ">President Barack Obama</a> is within reach of the <a href="http://www.pollheadlines.com/electoral-map.php" style="border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(44, 181, 233); ">270 electoral votes</a> needed to win a second term. Republican Mitt Romney's path to victory is narrowing. To overtake Obama, <a href="http://www.pollheadlines.com/poll-category.php?category=romney-favorable" style="border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(44, 181, 233); ">Romney</a> would need to quickly gain the upper hand in nearly all of the nine states where he and Obama are competing the hardest. Polls show the president with a steady lead in many of them as Romney looks to shift the dynamics of the race, starting with their first debate Wednesday in Denver. If the election were held today, an Associated Press analysis shows <a href="http://www.pollheadlines.com/2012_election_predictions.html" style="border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(44, 181, 233); ">Obama would win at least 271 electoral votes</a>, with likely victories in crucial Ohio and Iowa along with 19 other states and the District of Columbia. Romney would win 23 states for a total of 206. <a href="http://bigstory.ap.org/article/race-stands-obama-within-reach-second-term" target="_blank" style="border: 0px; font: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; text-decoration: none; color: rgb(44, 181, 233); ">Read more.</a> </div>

游客 IP:71.162.91.* 发布于 2012-10-01 05:51 7 楼^#

为什么要就是跟着欧巴马的宣传转？为什么不能自己研究一下。没时间，可以读读老钱写的，《<a href="http://www.atlanta168.com/forum/read.php?tid=9448">老钱：谁的错? (三) -- 浅谈税收与富人</a>》。他引用过的IRS税收数据（Fiscal Fact），大家就可以看到真相。 攻其一点，不及其余，正是历史上，所有的独裁者蒙蔽老百姓的惯用手法。这是自由世界，可以睁开你的眼睛。 <ol style="margin:0 0 0 25px" type="1">1. 在过去三十年，在美国税收总量中，平均来说，最高25%的高收入的部分的人贡献了70%左右；下一个25%贡献了25%左右；其次的25%只贡献了5%左右；最低25%的低收入的部分的人对税收基本是没有贡献的（包括那些靠社会福利，吃救济过日子的，不仅毫无贡献，而且是靠别人的贡献才能生活）。</ol> <ol style="margin:0 0 0 25px" type="1">2. 具体来看2009年的数据。比较高端1%，5%，10%和低端50%对税收的贡献和税率。</ol> <ul style="margin:0 0 0 15px">a.总税收：总人口中，高端1%的人贡献了36.7%的税收；扩展到高端5%，这部分人贡献了58.7%的税收；再扩展到高端10%，这部分人贡献了70.5%的税收；低端的50%的人，才贡献了2.3%！</ul> <ul style="margin:0 0 0 15px">b.缴税的税率：总人口中，平均税率是11.06%，高端1%的人平均税率是24.01%，高端5%的平均税率是20.46%，高端10%的平均税率是18.46%，而低端的50%的人只是1.85%！</ul> <ul style="margin:0 0 0 15px">c.全国总收入：这高端1% 的人的收入占全部总收入的16.9%（承担36.7%的税，税率是24.01%），高端5%人的收入占全美总收入的31.7%（承担58.7%的税，税率是20.46%），高端10%人的收入占全美总收入的43.2%（承担了70.5%的税，税率是18.46%）。（顺便提一下，在中国，是0.4%的人掌握了70%的财富）。</ul> <ol style="margin:0 0 0 25px" type="1">d.再从三十年纵向看，这最高5%的高收入人的赋税贡献，从1980年的36.8%增长到了2009年的58.7%；而低端的50%的人从7%降到了2.3%！</ol> 根据IRS的这些统计数据，无论是绝对税额上，还是相对税率上，说富人缴税比穷人低，都是谎话。

Dr.OlympiaLiu 发布于 2012-10-01 04:32 6 楼^#

Appreciate 7 lou Xing Guo!

Dr.OlympiaLiu 发布于 2012-10-01 04:30 5 楼^#

Appreciate IP 31's Correction.   

游客 IP:71.45.129.* 发布于 2012-09-29 07:29 4 楼^#

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老郭发布于 2012-09-29 07:24 3 楼^#

有观点！

Dr.OlympiaLiu 发布于 2012-09-29 05:50 2 楼^#

Appreciate 1 lou, 2 lou & 3 lou.<div> </div><div>Romney 是输定了。</div><div>他就是有回天之力，也不可能逆转了。</div>

Dr.OlympiaLiu 发布于 2012-09-29 05:28 1 楼^#

Appreciate 1 lou, 2 lou & 3 lou.<div> </div><div>现在看来，Romney 已失去人心，即使他有回天之力，也不能逆转了！</div><div>相信美国的广大群Z吧。</div><div> </div><div>168 个别网友也该改变一下立场了。</div>