btw, the 2nd column of the deficit data are inflation adjusted in the previous post. here is the data source:<br> <br><a href="http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php">http://www.davemanuel.com/history-of-deficits-and-surpluses-in-the-united-states.php</a><br> <br>Please, when you guys present your argument, presend fact and data. Not just force your believe onto other people.<br>
to 32nd floor,<br> <br><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><br><span style='font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>His health
care plan is beyond the country can afford. Please look at Greece, Spain and
Italy, when a leader ignores the basic principle of budgeting, the long term
effect is to detroy the country or the people in that country will suffer in
the future. Of course, I also love to get handout without working for it. But
is it sustainable??<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></span><br><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><br><span style='font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>If you can
tell me how to keep his level of the deficit spending without hurting the
country in a long run, I will be all eared.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Otherwise, let’s stop the future fiscal train wreck when we still can!!<o:p></o:p></span><br><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><br><span style='font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>Btw, don’t
you see how inefficient our government is?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>Look at our public employees’ pension plan and health care plan.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They are all better than our private
industries.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Why should our tax payers
support those plans while their productivities are lower than us?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You can’t reduce unemployment rate by provide
free jobs to lazy people (or the government jobs made them lazy).<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You reduce unemployment rate by promote sound
economic policies and make US work force more competitive in the world economy.<o:p></o:p></span><br><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
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烂摊子太烂收拾是需要时间的,
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游客IP:12.250.185.*发布于 2012-10-02 09:119 楼#
To 31st floor,<br> <br>Right, He always blame Bush for every his failure. What a childish execuse. Obama had his 4 years with two of them with total control by his party. He ran up twice as much deficit as Bush did in 8 years. He has no responsibility at all? I gave him 4 years and he failed it. So I will give Romney 4 years since I know next Obama 4 years will sure add another $5 trillion deficit. If he fails, I will vote him out in 2016.<br>
To tax equally is to use fair tax. No more income or investment taxes, just tax on items you buy. So you get tax more when you buy more expense luxury items. Less government programs and less government power. Romney may not be perfect choice,but clearly is better choice.
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游客IP:12.250.185.*发布于 2012-10-02 06:594 楼#
this is 28th floor again. Sorry, I fat fingered and made a typo. instead of<br> <br><font size="2">So you can judge a person by his party affiliation...</font><br><font size="2"></font> <br><font size="2">it should be </font><br><font size="2"></font> <br><font size="2">So you can't judge a person by his party affiliation...</font><br> <br>Sorry for the mistake.<br>
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游客IP:12.250.185.*发布于 2012-10-02 06:563 楼#
to 26 th floor,<br> <br><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><br><span style='font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>I agree
with you on most what you said, but not on your conclusion. Romeny is not Bush
and how could you know what he will do based on Bush. Obama is a Democrat, but
he is no Clinton. So you can judge a person by his party affiliation.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></span><br><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
</font><br><span style='font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>The reason
I think Obama must go is the deficit. </span><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It is true that congress passes the spending
bill.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>However, president has the veto
power and he also can use the bully pulpit to persuade public and congress on
the spending policy.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>On top of that, in
2009 and 2010, Democrats controlled both chambers of the congress.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Obama didn't do anything to control the
spending but he has spent all his energy to pass the high cost health care
plan.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>He ran up over $5 trillion deficit
in his 4 years compare over $2 trillion in Bush 8 years in a next to zero interest
environment.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Remember, Bush's $2 trillion
includes his tax cut and war spending too.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">
</span>He never vetoed any spending bill but added more spending programs.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Can we afford another $5 trillion deficit in
another 4 years?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>My answer is NO!<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Obama’s strategy is to spend whatever he need
to get himself reelected!<span style='font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'><o:p></o:p></span></font></font><br><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">
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<br>To Dr. Liu, Could you present more facts in this debate than posting partisan
slogans?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It doesn’t show any of your intelligence! IP *.247 does present a detailed data from IRS and his/her point of view. Could you do an similar analysis based on that fact? There are alwasy two sides of a coin for the same data. you just failed to prove your case as far as I can see.<br>
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IP 247:<div><br></div><div>你甭在此跟我叫号!</div><div><br></div><div>你蒙面骂人,还有脸跟我对话吗?</div><div><br></div><div>以牙还牙:</div><div><br></div><div>You are Son of Bitch!</div>
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